schluter shower system failure

edit: oh yeh...and landed smack dab in Ditra's lap!! In Englewood… When your shower pan leaks in your condo unit… Rust from water wicking up the drywall, sad. The last part of the Schulter shower system is the shower tray. It's a fine product. However, with the use of a modern uncoupling system, these problems can be prevented. I wonder if all you kerdi fans know that you only get a one year warranty LOL? These types of shower pans are constantly getting a bad rap because of consistent failures. Wow, I know where I'm getting my Kerdi from now on. Please choose your country or language to be directed to the website of the corresponding subsidiary. Termite damage due to the shower failing.. February 14, 2018 Our Master Bath Shower had to be completely gutted because of water damage. I know how much he doesn't know about my expertise so I don't really trust much he promotes). Many retailers complained to Schluter, many Tile Suppliers like Dal Tile complained on us, We have withstood the storm for 5 years. We've done three showers so far and have one more next month and each time the client has opted to spend the bucks with Kerdi. *Edited to add that I should have said 11 minutes. Wonder if you and I could weasle our way into one of those things. Seems the schluter products are readily available and they seem to have a good track record. I purchased the Schluter Kerdi system and had no problems with the walls at all. My shower will be almost as much work re. Hasn't leaked and I see no reason for it to leak....EVER. Done lots of them in the past. You would think the guy insulted the collective grandmother or something. We perform shower redo’s and tub-to-shower conversions as well as new installations of showers.. Schluter Systems allows us to provide you with a 10 Year Material and Labor Warranty. I can confidently say that I expect to be a life-long subscriber." There are way better ways to do this. If done right, is it really the cat’s meow? I prefer a TARP to waterproof the shower. Come to think of it I can't remember a single time we screwed up. But we use typar and ice and water shield, all those new-fangled building materials. I priced it on tileprotection.com and their cost delivered is $572.99! Schluter has never claimed that thinset mortar is waterproof. The KERDI-DRAIN provides a simple and secure connection to They both work great. Here is a pic of the drinks in the breakroom. I am getting a sense that people have had good success with it so am thinking I would like to try it. Many components come into play when building a watertight and waterproof tiled shower. "A stripe is just as real as a dadgummed flower.". "Amendment to the bill allows mastic to be used with Kerdi. Except that time we fumigated a doctor's operating room by mistake while a patient was on the table. I'm using Laticrete 317 unmodified floor and wall thinset mortar. His entire adminstration went into the toilet! Below you will learn the effects and common cause of shower failure. I used to think it was because of a leaky shower door, it’s not! KERDI-FIX is required to Life is too short. Unless maybe you were talking in metric. Some of the problems I’ve seen from shower failure include; termites, tiles falling off the wall, rust, structure damage, ugly discoloration, a bad odor, and of course mold. No cuts on tile except at corners. The shower is such that a mud pan will be easier than trying to fit their pregaged stuf fin place and I am quite comfortable gaging the shower. So i bought the saw with the guide, best thing since beer. My fav is dbl 3/4". I just ripped out my sister in laws shower. Water made it’s way under the shower pan… Not sure there was much pan liner here.. Water damaged curb, simply unprotected from the ravages of moisture. I looked at Mongo's old thread with all his picts of one he did with all the why's and how's and feel like I got a personal training session on the product but the more info the better! I ‘ve always used vinyl and durrock (or Hardi) and knock wood, never had any issues. It’s a good system if done well and their instructions are followed. The last bozo put the tile on with mastic. We did all the baths and kitchen, and slate floor with Schluter products, strictly according to directions, and so far (3 yrs)it is great. Edited 2/13/2009 11:50 pm ET by JonBlakemore. I use it on any shower job I do. Nah....I get what he means...cept we all know it was Bush's fault : )~. The contractor used the Kerdi system and there is a Schluter drain at the bottom (have not ripped that out yet) but the system leaked all over the place. Thanks for the tip...........To All: By the way, we up charge the client when using Kerdi. First let me tell you why it’s important to understand if your shower is failing. I was in your boat too, I did get to see the demo but I understood most of it before from watching the video and reading stuff here, john bridge and others. If you haven't worked with Kerdi, BUY and read the book.. Now the plumber and inspector are happy. Why?I mean, I like a good building detail as much as the next guy, but don't you think it strange to get up in arms over someone who wants to use 19.2" OC stud spacing or fibermesh in place of rebar in concrete? Or use Kerdi on the walls of a tub surround. 1 1/2 years old. The only concern I have is for readers, DIY and trade, that do not remember Versabond and just grab any old thinset and then wonder why it will not set. I recently purchased an older home and am currently remodeling the bathroom. It is the best way I know to provide waterproofing and vapor management to keep the water where it belongs. "Just out of curiosity, why the strong response to the thread title?". So, the water wicks up the drywall behind the tile, cement board also allows moisture to wick, it doesn’t get damaged but allows the wood behind it to be damaged. edit edit...lol...wait wait...heard he's calling out the RedGard...bwahahaha, oh gawd...stop me...please...lol...and I also heard he called out his Wonder Board and they're trying to get Hardi Back as well...oy vey...nite***, Edited 2/13/2009 11:20 pm ET by andybuildz, Edited 2/13/2009 11:21 pm ET by andybuildz, Edited 2/13/2009 11:23 pm ET by andybuildz. I know the Schluter seems to be the Festool of tile products, but couldn't they be wrong? So to clarify; use Kerdi on the shower floor and shower walls, even on the ceiling if you're doing a steam shower. I've delayed this one for that reason. If you're interested in a non-DIY method then you can either hire a professional to install it or you can take a look at the Vigo shower enclosure . They do make a 5'x5' pan (actually it's 6'x6'). How long has Kerdi been in use? The gc on the project was all upset but bet him dinner I could fix them, 400 doors. I've got several projects over 5 years old using both Kerdi and Ditra. Ditra is not used in showers, it's a floor uncoupling/waterproof membrane. UpDate: 12/05/2009 Home from the party. And, I think that last one is the worst, because it can cause; sinus trouble, headaches, and sickness. After 6 months of getting the run around from Schluter, the depression around the drain is about 1/4" deep and about half of the tiles have come up. They are incredibly common and are the most visually apparent symptom of an installation failure. I even use it around tubs with no shower. And, how much per square foot is Kerdi? The idea is to have nothing that is moisture sensitive or that can feed mold between the shower and the rest of your house. Or thinset directly to the rubber?? IMO, yes, Schlüter is the cat's meow. However, to make a ditra floor completely waterproof like in a wet room, run a strip of Kerdi over the seams between the sheets of ditra. Thats the info I want to know but never used it so want to get some feedback from people. Yea, it seems one can't badmouth festool here. I use Versabond which isn't "heavily" modified. The one learning curve for me was knowing how much kerdi I could get on there while the thinset was still wet enough. Cracking and debonding of tile and stone coverings are two of the most obvious problems encountered with wetroom installations and floor-level showers. I saw some rolls in the big box today and of course, it didn't have a price tag. "Maybe it is just me but to work with the Kerdi system here for a 5x5 shower without the pan (they don't make one that big apparently), it is about 600$.". Please tell me it's worth the money because I am having a hard time justifying the money for some tape together membrane a few sheets of plastic with square dimples. These shower failures are why we have embraced Schluter Systems for waterproofing your showers. We give them option one, the old chloraloy vinyl liner, NOT guaranteed, or Kerdi with a five year guarantee for $1,500.00 bucks more. Just because he's Kerry. I installed a new shower with granite on the walls and glass tile on the floor - the glass is 3/4" x 3/4". What is everyones experience with the stuff. We also find nails thru the vinyl on top of the curbs. Start your subscription today and save up to 52%. I wonder if water will find those screw holes? How's Long Island these days. It always seems to be Hardi. BTW Kerdi is great stuff. I'm cheap and made myself. These shower failures are why we have embraced Schluter Systems for waterproofing your showers. "Nah, it's the other nucklehead's work we show. but will find out who the local rep is as well. Kerdi showers are 100% waterproof when properly installed. It looks like the correct fastener was used, but not the correct spacing. No one ever has a problem with cement board; Durock or Wonderboard. Never had an issue with it. And some of those projects were installations over pretty marginal substrates; I get a lot of those up here in old summer cottages people have 'winterised' to use all year round. I agree that the Kerdi did not fail. While sitting at the table watching my daughter open her presents I got an email from Ebay. Nothing like striking fear to get your point across! I want to be renovating bathrooms from the 60's  with yellow tile that desparately need it, not 2 year old baths that look great and leak like sieves. The gorilla that installed it failed. KERDI-FIX can be used to waterproof pipe and valve protrusions in the Schluter®-Shower System in conjunction with the Schluter®-KERDI membrane and Schluter®-KERDI-BOARD. Mike Holmes celebrates in Canada with a cartilage piercing and new bib overalls". window.addEventListener && window.addEventListener("message", function(event){if (event.origin === "https://manntile.youcanbook.me"){document.getElementById("ycbmiframemanntile").style.height = event.data + "px";}}, false); CategoriesSchluter, Showers, Wall Tile, Waterproofing. 'Cause his wise guys couldn't out-maneuver Bush's wise guys.And it's Kerry's fault. To navigate through our assortment, choose from the following product areas. The Schluter system in the shower is clean and life lasting but most importantly 100% water tight. LI's OK...still long...still expensive...still has water around it...even cows n hay n potatoes... Far as Ditra goes...you need to be sure the floor is solid and I like it at a minimum of 1 1/4" thick of subfloor. Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA. >>Call me cheap, but I believe that I can put a torch down rubber membrane up the entire wall for less than 100$ and not end up with leaks either. Git runned right out of the place! L GardenStructure.com~Build for the Art of it! "doesn't seem like a good idea to show pics of yer own work that's failed? This was in Englewood. Assemblies achieved using the Schluter®-Shower System reduce total installation time and eliminate the risk of failures due to water and vapor penetration, thus preventing efflorescence and mold growth. If you do have a hole then you just put a patch over it that is at least 2" from the hole.You don't blame the PT lumber or decking material if a deck pulls off the house because some gorilla never lagged it to the house, same as this case. I normally just do the bottom 6" and around the seats with vinyl but this shower was leaking everywhere and there is no way I am going to put something back that leaks. Schluter-DITRA is bonded to the substrate using thin-set mortar. and Joe Bidet.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks. See more ideas about shower systems, schluter shower, bathrooms remodel. Some more of the symptoms include, discoloration around the bottom of the shower. How about a free estimate? :-)Constructing in metric... On many of the chloraloy installation failures we have found that the curbs were not done correctly. From Schlüter®-SCHIENE, the original finishing profile for floor coverings, to complete ceramic thermal-comfort floors. I've heard they are one of the most powerful! (Not getting paid much for the job so mideswell make it a learning experience), It just doesnt make sense to me why the installer just blatantly left holes in the kerdi and did not overlap. From drains to shower benches to waterproofing pipe seals, Schluter®-Systems offers everything you need to ensure a dependable and watertight installation. I have used Kerdi and think it a great product. No matter what your design style is, installation requirements, or budget, we have the solution you need.You will find only the best brands when it comes to our shower systems. Edited 2/15/2009 7:20 am ET by captainbil. Festool, neat but pricy. Even schluter will tell you it's ok to use Versabond but the warantee is void. How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? Schillings carries what you need to complete your bathroom and shower remodel/installation. It’s What’s Inside Your Shower That Counts. What do you think? The anchoring fleece on the underside of Schluter-DITRA-XL is engaged in the mortar to provide a mechanical bond to the substrate. I never use unmodified. ""...the old chloraloy vinyl liner..."" ""I show them several pictures of the rot and mold behind the vinyl pan repair jobs we have done "' What was the actual problem with the chloraloy liners in the rep[aired showers? Which is really a sad commentary on the slob who put it in. He just suggested that a waterproofing system didn't work. No it DOESN't have to be unmodified thinset. Schlüter-Systems offers an assortment of over 10 000 proven system solutions for the installation of tiles and natural stone. The Schluter®-Shower System eliminates the risk of failures due to water and vapor penetration and dramatically reduces total installation time. I just emailed Shluter to get more info on the product so that I can understand it and perhaps rebuild this shower with it-properly! I think Wedi is more like Festool. Seriously east to install but a bit on the expensive side. The HYDRO-BLOK system was developed to provide you with a convenient and hassle-free way to build and customize the shower of your dreams. I gotta put something back there and want to know if the Kerdi system is the right product. She (Margerite SP?) The Schluter®-Shower System eliminates the risk of failures due to water and vapor penetration and dramatically reduces total installation time. Easier to just say no and take the warrantee for the vast majority. The truth is though, that if installed correctly there should not be any issues with using this type of shower pan. © 2021 The Taunton Press, Inc. All rights reserved. I don't see how just overlapping 2" will seal anything. And oh yea, we dumped a gallon of contact adhesive on a carpeted restaurant floor an hour before opening. It amounts to reading the directions and following them to the letter to be confident of success with a great product. Meanwhile Schlüter®-KERDI-LINE is a component linear drainage system for the construction of floor level showers with ceramic tiles, natural stone, or other coatings. Time for another bailout! Also, I tiled the ceiling in our shower 3'x5' so the kit that I bought was not enough, I needed a few extra corners and other pieces. from TileProtection.com. It's of note that I came home about 20 minutes ago to a pile of boxes at my front door. 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